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============================================ MT India Digest Moderated Discussion List "Effective MT Forum" ============================================ Published by: MT India www.MTIndia.org Moderated by: Amit Chatterjee,SM
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.................................................. Mar 28, 2001 Digest #064 .................................................. .....IN THIS DIGEST..... =======MODERATOR COMMENT======== ~Maj (Dr) Amit Chatterjee,SM "Cocktails & IAMT" ===========CONTINUING============ -=MT in India - a perspective!=- ~Visalam "take in virtually everyone who is willing to pay the course fee, and glibly assure everyone of a job " ~Tanuja Sarode "real MTs and Industry are getting suffocated in India" ~Anurag Bansal "my training institute due to greed cut back my course duration from 5 months to 4 months." ~Vineet Gupta "there are lot of students who do not take MT training seriously." ~Manasi Adivarekar "all of us waiting eagerly and looking forward for a fine future as a successful medical transcriptionist." ~Arijit Chatterjee "already paid 50% of the fees and is now at loss since the co. is not authiorised to provide certificates" ========== BILLBOARD ============= -=MTIA=- ~Vivek =======MODERATOR COMMENT========= Dear MTIDers: Vivek asks "MTIA conference - Is it worth attending?" Well ...I have been told the sponsored cocktails are excellent!:) Visalam says "An Indian Association of Medical Transcriptionists would seem to be the answer." I really wonder. After all its all about money, honey!! Less than 5% of American MTs are certified! AAMT membership is still in four digits! No organization can thrive without funds. Who is going to fund it? I am thinking...MTIndia has 6,000 members today. If each donated Rs 500 one-time, that would be Rs 30,00,000!! Enough funds to kick start a non-profit organization. Let us have a in-house poll and proceed, or give up this discussion about forming an "IAMT". All philantropics - please send a blank email with "AYE" in the subject line to
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, if you are ready to contribute. I can predict the results, but let the members decide - I for one, would be delighted to be proved wrong! Regards to all, Maj (Dr.) Amit Chatterjee, SM Your Striving Moderator Comment?
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================CONTINUING======================= From: "janram" <
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> Subject: MT scene in India Dear Manasi, and other MTIDers, I sympathise with your predicament Presently, anyone with a few PCs, a couple of teachers on his "faculty" can set up as a training institute.These guys do administer an "aptitude test", but take in virtually everyone who is willing to pay the course fee, and glibly assure everyone of a job with a "tie-up" MT company, "if they pass the employers' tests," ("but don't worry-- those are not hard; anyone with basic intelligence and hard work can manage...") Many of those accepted obviously do not have the baseline science/English ot other skills that can be built upon in a short term course, and an ethical company should say so. Well, at the end of four months, the course director can always shrug his shoulders and say he is sorry, but you were warned that you had to pass. the test. If you read the fine print on the brochure or contract you will see that the training company has nowhere mentioned any obligation to find employment for you. Secondly, what about the course itself? A similar course in the US would take two to three years, and it would be exhaustive. Here, some train you in six months, some in four, some in three. Obviously, when you take your test you are like the contestant in KBC. If you are lucky you are asked the right questions! We had trainees sit in bemused silence through two months while we went over and over the gastrointestinal system. At the end of it the lecturer threw up her hands in frustration. "What don't you understand?" she cried. One person stood up to say, "What is this you are talking about? I can't understand anything. What is mucous membrane, what is gland, what is valve, what is ......?" It was a four month course, with two months left to cover everything from musculoskeletal to nervous system (with some psychiatry, pharmacology, oncology, and nuclear medicine thrown in) Areas of darkness? You bet!! An Indian Association of Medical Transcriptionists would seem to be the answer. This could prescribe standards and offer independent certification that would be an assurance of quality. Of course all training institutes would charge more, and the course would be more arduous, but the certificate you receive would not be just a worthless piece of paper. Visalam Comment?
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++++ new post - same topic ++++ From: Tanuja Sarode<
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> Subject: Medical Transcription in India Hi Amit & MTIDers, I fully agree with your views that real MTs and Industry are getting suffocated in India ever since the MT driving force has been initiated in India, (in Mumbai around 1-1/2 years). There is a prompt requirement of a common forum of companies as mentioned by you, define the forum's policies, goals, and commitment towards quality of work, maintain privacy, and certify the member companies, as well as the standard of the MT. I would like to share my views with you, they are that India is a land of resources for US. Why? Firstly, one of the main reason being highly qualified labor; secondly, cheap labor, being the professional advantage. Thirdly, adaptability of Indians to work in any field, be it IT or any organizational work, production work, service work, or laborious work. Fourthly, diversity of language and hence tremendous ability to learn and acquaint with different types of accents and phonetics; and last but not the least, US being a land of migrated people from all over the world, has no stable language phonetics, which makes an Indian origin an advantage due to Indian language diversity. Thank you. Ms. Tanuja Sarode Medical Transcriptionist Mumbai. Comment?
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++++ new post - same topic ++++ From: Anurag Bansal<
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> Subject: Medical Transcription in India Dear Sir, I had the opportunity to read your article stating that because MT companies are not imparting adequate training and resorting to short cuts is a view I fully subscribe to. Sir, I had done this course around a year back. Although my training institute gave me good training but due to greed cut back my course duration from 5 months (which in itself is a very short duration for such a course) to 4 months. I realizing that resented that but to no avail. Finally when nothing could be done, i just thought best what was best for me. I insisted on my perspective and kept on working hard for a long periods, working on my English as well as most importantly my medical because I did not have so much problem in English speaking or writing. Sir, I totally subscribe to your view that we need to have good English at the school level if India as a country needs to do well in transcription-related industry which at the moment is almost dependent on the US. Sir, I have been able to because of my insistence and shear hard work has been able to rise to a level of supervisor in such a short time of one year which is really unthinkable. I have trained in a training institute also when my OJT was going on and seeing the results, my thinking has only hardened that we need to have a proper and strict guidelines for the MT training institutes so that they do not just keep on churning out people who just do not have a base to do it. I think we as people in the industry must be strict enough to keep a track of those people who are taking a ride of people's hard earned money as they know that a particular student cannot do it in the first place as he is very poor in English. (Say he may not even be able to spell out the word "believe", even then they are ready to take such people and ask for fees although fraction of what needs to be incured on an MT but a big amount for a person who is not fit enough to do the thing ultimately. Sir, I again feel we must have a platform where we are able to safeguard the interests of MT in India as it has great potential but there must be great care taken in order to have proper growth of the industry. Hope that you would respond back if there is already such a platform. Thanking you, Anurag Bansal Comment?
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++++ new post - same topic ++++ From: Vineet Gupta <
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> Subject: MT as a career Dear Fellas: I do not understand why you are blaming a "profession" such as MT. It is an "opportunity" to us Indians. We must accept the facts, we should live in "practical" atmosphere. When there is staff selection exam (SSB) for a job of clerk in bank, a huge number of candidates appear. How many succeed?? When there is an exam for engineering / medical what number of students appear and how many succeed?? I mean to say, when there are a lot of aspirants who are looking for a career, and when an opportunity is coming to us, why should we "blame" it? Rather we should be enthusiastic, and make sure that this opportunity or "MT as profession" grows and it becomes a very successful industry in India. Yes, that is true many un-ethical people are taking advantage of this situation, but you should be smart enough to judge what is right and what is wrong. One of my friends told me, there are so many private engineering / medical colleges, who do not even have faculty what to talk about labs, etc. Once again you have to be smart to judge right and wrong. I do agree that there might be many MT training institutes, who are not giving good training to their students so that they become "fit" for the industry, but there are lot of students who do not take MT training seriously. I give you one example, at my production unit, I called some MTs for test, as you know in all production units there is networking, and most of the times same files are given to MTs for test, some MTs tried to go to the networking and looked for the already transcribed files by other MTs or who has already taken test before them. !! What would you say about them !! One thing I can confirm you if any MT training institutes is guarantying you a 100% job, they are befooling you, IT IS YOUR PERFORMANCE in the MT production house, to put it precisely your accuracy and sincerity which will land you a job. If you have done your training good, then you do not need institutes to help you for a job, jobs will come to you. Vineet Gupta CMV Informatics Medical Transcription Services and Training Centre Comment?
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++++ new post - same topic ++++ From: manasi adivarekar <
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> Subject: Re: MTIndia Digest #063 Respected Sir, Thanks for your reply. I was really too much worried about my future and those with me, all of us waiting eagerly and looking forward for a fine future as a successful medical transcriptionist. I do have a very much positive attitude towards all the facts and was also worried to be a bonded labor. Well, I myself dont mind doing it for gaining perfection and would like to work on my own with the help of all my fellow MTs. The next thing I liked was Som Shekhar's Time to chuckle. It was a nice refreshment. I would like to share it with my fellow MTs. Thanks again for this wonderful forum. I would like to share all my problems regarding 'MT' with you. Manasi Adivarekar Comment?
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++++ new post - same topic ++++ From: Arijit Chatterjee <
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> Subject: Seeking help Dear Amit & MTIDers! As a newcomer in the MT industry I have no idea from where & how to start. Please help me in this regard. Which institute is the best in providing quality training / placement in Calcutta & what about the fee structure. One of my friends had joined Transcribe Soltn. Pvt. Ltd. in Calcutta. But now the co. has broken its ties with the same of Bangalore. He has already paid 50% of the fees and is now at loss since the co. is not authiorised to provide certificates from Transcribe Soln. The whole of the batch feels cheated. Please help them in taking the right move. Thanking you, Yours faithfully, Arijit Chatterjee. Comment?
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=============== BILLBOARD ============== From: Vivek <
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