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Tuesday, 27 March 2001

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MT India Digest
Moderated Discussion List
"Effective MT Forum"
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Mar 28, 2001     Digest #064
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=======MODERATOR COMMENT========

   ~Maj (Dr) Amit Chatterjee,SM
"Cocktails & IAMT"

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-=MT in India - a perspective!=-

   ~Visalam
"take in virtually everyone who is willing to pay the course
fee, and glibly assure everyone of a job "

   ~Tanuja Sarode
"real MTs and Industry are getting suffocated in India"

   ~Anurag Bansal
"my training institute due to greed cut back my course duration
from 5 months to 4 months."

   ~Vineet Gupta
"there are lot of students who do not take MT training
seriously."

   ~Manasi Adivarekar
"all of us waiting eagerly and looking forward for a fine future
as a successful medical transcriptionist."

   ~Arijit Chatterjee
"already paid 50% of the fees and is now at loss since the co. is
not authiorised to provide certificates"

========== BILLBOARD =============

-=MTIA=-

   ~Vivek

=======MODERATOR COMMENT=========

Dear MTIDers:

Vivek asks "MTIA conference - Is it worth attending?"

Well ...I have been told the sponsored cocktails are excellent!:)

Visalam says "An Indian Association of Medical Transcriptionists
would seem to be the answer." I really wonder. After all its all
about money, honey!!  Less than 5% of American MTs are certified!
AAMT membership is still in four digits! No organization can
thrive without funds. Who is going to fund it?

I am thinking...MTIndia has 6,000 members today. If each donated
Rs 500 one-time, that would be Rs 30,00,000!! Enough funds to
kick start a non-profit organization.

Let us have a in-house poll and proceed, or give up this discussion
about forming an "IAMT".

All philantropics - please send a blank email with "AYE" in the
subject line to This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , if you are ready to contribute.

I can predict the results, but let the members decide - I for
one, would be delighted to be proved wrong!

Regards to all,

Maj (Dr.) Amit Chatterjee, SM
Your Striving Moderator
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From: "janram" < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject:  MT scene in India

Dear Manasi, and other MTIDers,

I sympathise with your predicament   Presently, anyone with a few
PCs, a couple of teachers on his "faculty" can set up as a
training institute.These guys do administer an "aptitude test",
but take in virtually everyone who is willing to pay the course
fee, and glibly assure everyone of a job with a "tie-up" MT
company, "if they pass the employers' tests," ("but don't worry--
those are not hard; anyone with basic intelligence and hard work
can manage...")  Many of those accepted obviously do not have the
baseline science/English ot other skills  that can be built upon
in a short term course, and an ethical company should say so.
Well, at the end of four months, the course director can always
shrug his shoulders and say he is sorry, but you were warned that
you had to pass. the test.  If you read the fine  print on the
brochure or contract you will see that the training
company has nowhere mentioned any obligation to find employment
for you.

Secondly, what about the course itself?  A similar course in the
US would take two to three years, and it would be exhaustive.
Here, some train you in six months, some in four, some in three.
Obviously, when you take your test you are like the contestant in
KBC.  If you are lucky you are asked the right questions!

We had trainees sit in bemused silence through two months while
we went over and over the gastrointestinal system.  At the end of
it the lecturer threw up her hands in frustration.  "What don't
you understand?" she cried.  One person stood up to say, "What is
this you are talking about?  I can't understand anything.  What
is mucous membrane, what is gland, what is valve,
what is ......?"  It was a four month course, with two months
left to cover everything from musculoskeletal to nervous system
(with some psychiatry, pharmacology, oncology, and nuclear
medicine thrown in)  Areas of darkness?  You bet!!

An Indian Association of Medical Transcriptionists would seem to
be the answer.  This could prescribe standards and offer
independent certification that would be an assurance of quality.
Of course all training institutes would charge more, and the
course would be more arduous, but the certificate you receive
would not be just a worthless piece of paper.

Visalam

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From: Tanuja Sarode< This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: Medical Transcription in India

Hi Amit & MTIDers,

I fully agree with your views that real MTs and Industry are
getting suffocated in India ever since the MT driving force has
been initiated in India, (in Mumbai around 1-1/2 years).  There
is a prompt requirement of a common forum of companies as
mentioned by you, define the forum's policies, goals, and
commitment towards quality of work, maintain privacy, and certify
the member companies, as well as the standard of the MT.

I would like to share my views with you, they are that India is a
land of resources for US.  Why?  Firstly, one of the main reason
being highly qualified labor; secondly, cheap labor, being the
professional advantage.  Thirdly, adaptability of Indians to work
in any field, be it IT or any organizational work, production
work, service work, or laborious work.  Fourthly, diversity of
language and hence tremendous ability to learn and acquaint with
different types of accents and phonetics; and last but not the
least, US being a land of migrated people from all over the
world, has no stable language phonetics, which makes an Indian
origin an advantage due to Indian language diversity.

Thank you.

Ms. Tanuja Sarode
Medical Transcriptionist
Mumbai.

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From: Anurag Bansal< This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: Medical Transcription in India

Dear Sir,

I had the opportunity to read your article stating that because
MT companies are not imparting adequate training and resorting to
short cuts is a view I fully subscribe to.

Sir, I had done this course around a year back. Although my
training institute gave me good training but due to greed cut
back my course duration from 5 months (which in itself is a very
short duration for such a course) to 4 months.  I realizing that
resented that but to no avail. Finally when nothing could be
done, i just thought best what was best for me.  I insisted on my
perspective and kept on working hard for a long periods, working
on my English as well as most importantly my medical because I
did not have so much problem in English speaking or writing.

Sir, I totally subscribe to your view that we need to have good
English at the school level if India as a country needs to do
well in transcription-related industry which at the moment is
almost dependent on the US.

Sir, I have been able to because of my insistence and shear hard
work has been able to rise to a level of supervisor in such a
short time of one year which is really unthinkable.

I have trained in a training institute also when my OJT was going
on and seeing the results, my thinking has only hardened that we
need to have a proper and strict guidelines for the MT training
institutes so that they do not just keep on churning out people
who just do not have a base to do it. I think we as people in the
industry must be strict enough to keep a track of those people
who are taking a ride of people's hard earned money as they know
that a particular student cannot do it in the first place as he
is very poor in English. (Say he may not even be able to spell
out the word "believe", even then they are ready to take such
people and ask for fees although fraction of what needs to be
incured on an MT but a big amount for a person who is not fit
enough to do the thing ultimately.

Sir, I again feel we must have a platform where we are able to
safeguard the interests of MT in India as it has great potential
but there must be great care taken in order to have proper growth
of the industry.

Hope that you would respond back if there is already such a
platform.

Thanking you,

Anurag Bansal

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From: Vineet Gupta < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: MT as a career

Dear Fellas:

I do not understand why you are blaming a "profession" such as
MT. It is an "opportunity" to us Indians. We must accept the
facts, we should live in "practical" atmosphere.

When there is staff selection exam (SSB) for a job of clerk in
bank, a huge number of candidates appear. How many succeed??

When there is an exam for engineering / medical what number of
students appear and how many succeed??

I mean to say,  when there are a lot of aspirants who are looking
for a career, and when an opportunity is coming to us, why should
we  "blame" it? Rather we should be enthusiastic, and make sure
that this opportunity or "MT as profession" grows and it becomes
a very successful industry in India.

Yes, that is true many un-ethical people are taking advantage of
this situation, but you should be smart enough to judge what is
right and what is wrong.

One of my friends told me, there are so many private engineering
/ medical colleges, who do not even have faculty what to talk
about labs, etc. Once again you have to be smart to judge right
and wrong.

I do agree that there might be many MT training institutes, who
are not giving good training to their students so that they
become "fit" for the industry, but there are lot of students who
do not take MT training seriously.

I give you one example, at my production unit, I called some MTs
for test, as you know in all production units there is
networking, and most of the times same files are given to MTs for
test, some MTs tried to go to the networking and looked for the
already transcribed files by other MTs or who has already taken
test before them. !! What would you say about them !!

One thing I can confirm you if any MT training institutes is
guarantying you a 100% job, they are befooling you, IT IS YOUR
PERFORMANCE in the MT production house, to put it precisely your
accuracy and sincerity which will land you a job.

If you have done your training good, then you do not need
institutes to help you for a job, jobs will come to you.

Vineet Gupta
CMV Informatics
Medical Transcription Services and Training Centre

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From: manasi adivarekar < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: Re: MTIndia Digest #063

Respected Sir,

Thanks for your reply. I was really too much worried
about my future and those with me, all of us waiting
eagerly and looking forward for a fine future as a
successful medical transcriptionist.

I do have a very much positive attitude towards all
the facts and was also worried to be a bonded labor.
Well, I myself dont mind doing it for gaining
perfection and would like to work on my own with the
help of all my fellow MTs.

The next thing I liked was Som Shekhar's Time to
chuckle. It was a nice refreshment. I would like to
share it with my fellow MTs.

Thanks again for this wonderful forum. I would like to share all
my problems regarding 'MT' with you.

Manasi Adivarekar

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From: Arijit Chatterjee < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: Seeking help

Dear Amit & MTIDers!

As a newcomer in the MT industry I have no idea from
where & how to start. Please help me in this regard.
Which institute is the best in providing quality
training / placement in Calcutta & what about the fee
structure.

One of my friends had joined Transcribe
Soltn. Pvt. Ltd. in Calcutta. But now the co. has
broken its ties with the same of Bangalore. He has
already paid 50% of the fees and is now at loss since
the co. is not authiorised to provide certificates
from Transcribe Soln. The whole of the batch feels
cheated. Please help them in taking the right move.

Thanking you,

Yours faithfully,
Arijit Chatterjee.

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=============== BILLBOARD ==============

From: Vivek < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject   : MTIA

Hi all!

Do you know of anybody planning to attend this
conference? Is it worth attending?

Thanks,

Vivek
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