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MT India Digest
Moderated Discussion List
"Effective MT Forum"
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Published by:
MT India www.MTIndia.org Moderated by:
Amit Chatterjee,SM
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Mar 21, 2001 Digest #063
.................................................. .....IN THIS DIGEST..... =======MODERATOR COMMENT======== ~Maj (Dr) Amit Chatterjee,SM
"Transparent and Candid" ===========NEW===================== -=Time to Chuckle=- ~Som Shekar
"ANTIBODY? - against everyone" ~Karin Lea
"Darwin Awards" ===========CONTINUING============ -=MT in India - a perspective!=- ~Ramarao Velagapudi
"can do yeomen service to the country by helping bring some
regulations " ~Kulkarni Ameet
"When you train a MT, you need to recover the training
costs" ~Ramesh Shamarao
"Sounds like couple of bad eggs in the basket. " ~Meera Sankriti
"as in any business, the teething problems or the baby steps days
are over and India is now looking forward to a professional way
of dealing with their overseas clients. ~C G Anbarasan
"They knew that they are unable to provide a proper job for
anyone. So they have sent few students to these centers as
faculties." ~Manasi Adivarekar
"Or are all MT's are supposed to be EMPTY's? Do reply. =======MODERATOR COMMENT========= Dear MTIDers: If nothing else, I will try to be transparent and candid. Karin's
post took me to the good old snow clad days - patrolling the
slopes in full-tracked snowmobiles in Gulmarg, at the High
Altitude Warfare School, and racing for supplies on snow scooters
at Sciachen - even for a pound of fresh bread or meat !:)
Reminences of an old man...:) But back to sweaty Calcutta or overloaded Bangalore, life is as
static! So back to slog... Kulkarni says "When you train a MT, you need to recover the
training costs and earn.I am not convinced by your opinion that
training should be considered as cost. Probably this is the
reason why new MT companies are charging for training and then
they are letting them off since they dont get MT work. " I will translate into simple terms - when an organization trains,
it expects to recover costs of training in the future from the
same people they invested in training. All well and good! That
does not imply inadequate training - companies who are charging
for training, and "then they are letting them off since they dont
get MT work", did not appropriately train them. Plain and
simple - they should have considered training as a genuine
business - and would have reaped high dividends from MT Service
Organizations by their appropriate placements. "Many people from Health Scribe and Heartland did that, they took
free training and changed ships? What security does the early
entrant have." HRD is not a term I have invented - in a
knowledge based industry, if you succumb to the call for
immediate profits, do not expect your employees to stand by you. "Lot of students are paying huge amount of fees and are then
swindled by the management, who invited this action: The students
themselves by leaving the company after getting trained." Paid
education is a misnomer in India - non existant! All acceptable
education systems in India today are heavily govt. sponsored. To
train an entry level MT - cost to company is, by my
calculations - Rs 70,000 spread over seven months or about 1600
USD. How can you profess to impart this education in half the
time and at one forth of that cost? And this is only applicable
to train candidates who are equvalent of 10th grade as per US
English standards on the TOEFL scale. 70 % of so professed Indian
MTs have extremely poor English schooling background, and will
take three times that effort in expenses and time to reach
satisfactory standards. "If many students are being swindled then many MT companies have
closed down due to such attitudes of students." Kindly name me
one MT company which closed down because of this - they suffered
financially, opted in for paid training, covertly subsidised, but
that's it. "So, I think contract issue should be enforced and the choice
remains with the company. MT companies cannot do CHARITY, they
are in business too." I have an axe to grind over any such
contract issue - If an organization is good, it will retain its
employees by good HRD policies. I had a lifetime of contract
with the Indian Army but opted out, our next defence minister
will be of the same creed - maybe you should be sitting in the PMO's
office as an advisor! But beware - any contract can be broken -
otherwise it is plain bonded labor. Manasi Adivarekar "What about all these people who are paying
such a lot of money though they cannot afford wasting all this
amount just to learn something that has no future? Or are all
MT's are supposed to be EMPTY's?" Manasi, MT has a great future in
India - whether you will be able to leverage it, only time can
tell! Keep heart, slog and best of luck. Regards to all, Maj (Dr.) Amit Chatterjee, SM
Your Striving Moderator
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===========NEW===================== From: Som Shekar <
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Subject: Time to Chuckle Hi MTIndians: Time to chuckle. Following is something that I came across
recently..Please no offence to anybody..Once upon a time, a
Sardar applied to a Medical Transcription School/Company-
needless to say he never made it - you know why? Well, these are the answers he gave at the entrance exam: ANTIBODY? - against everyone
ARTERY - the study of fine paintings
BACTERIA - back door to a cafeteria
BENIGN - what you be after you be eight
BOWEL - letters like a,e,i,o,u
CAESARIAN SECTION - a district in Rome
CARDIOLOGY - advanced study of poker playing
CAT SCAN - searching for lost kitty
CHRONIC - neck of a crow
COMA - punctuation mark
CORTIZONE - area around local courthouse
CYST - short for sister
DIAGNOSIS - person with a slanted nose
DILATE - the late British princess Diana
DISLOCATION - in this place
DUODENUM - couple in jeans
ENEMA - not a friend
FALSE LABOR - pretending to work
FECES - nasty countenance
GALLBLADDER - bladder in a girl
GENES - blue denim
GROIN - to mash to a pulp / smile
HERNIA - she is close by
HYMEN - greeting to several males
IMPOTENT - distinguished, well-known
LABOR PAIN - hurt at work
LACTOSE - person without feet
LIPOSUCTION - a French kiss
LYMPH - walk unsteadily
MENOPAUSE - I no wait
MICROBES - small dressing gowns
OBESITY - city of Obe
PACEMAKER - winner of Nobel Peace Prize
PROTEIN - in favour of teens
PULSE - grain PUS - small cat
RED BLOOD COUNT - Dracula
RUPTURE - ecstasy
SECRETION - hiding anything
SEMEN - sailors
SERUM - sailors drink
SUBCUTANEOUS - not cute enough
SUTURE - Gujarati for "what do you want"
TABLET - small table
TUMOR - extra pair
ULTRASOUND - radical noise
URINE - opposite of you're out
VARICOSE - very close
VAS DEFERENS - extremely different VEIN - at what time?
VITREOUS HUMOR - both witty & funny Regards
Som Shekar Comment?
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Subject: Darwin Awards Hi all! I'm sure you all know about the "Darwin Awards," when someone
does something incredibly stupid and doesn't always live to tell
the tale. Well, the names have been withheld to "protect the
innocent," but below is a paragraph from a transcription I did
very recently. For real! Karin "He is here today as a result of injuring himself on March 10,
2001. He describes a rather bizarre injury as having occurred
when he was snowmobiling, went off a jump, the machine landed
awkwardly and broke the handle. He got a few bumps and bruises
on that. After the incident, he towed his snowmobile to his
cabin. The next day, he was loading his snowmobile with the
broken handle on a trailer. He got it started up the trailer,
then he thought he would just start the engine and ease it up
into the trailer. Unfortunately, when he started it up and gave
it some gas to climb the trailer ramp, the throttle went wide
open and he and the snowmobile flew over the top of his truck,
went through the air, struck another camper truck, went straight
down with the snowmobile, causing him to fly off. His wife, who
witnessed this, stated he was fifteen to twenty feet in the air
before he landed." Comment?
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Subject: MT scene in India - Ms. Rukmini's observations Dr. Amit, Congrats to you and Ms. Rukmini for the wonderful and erudite
analysis of the state of affairs in India relating to MT. What she says is eminently sensible and scholarly, if I may say. Persons like Dr Amit and Mr.Dewang Mehta, the ebulient president
of NASSCOM and of course our sober Minister for IT, Mr. Mahajan
can do yeomen service to the country by helping bring some
regulations for the healthy growth of the MT industry and it's
sustenance. Ram Velagapudi
Chief Information Officer,
Indus Networks Ltd
www.indusnetworks.com Comment?
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Subject: Re: The MT Times Hello Amit: You seem to profess the idea of non-contractual
agreement for employment. Then what about the company
who has trained and other new MT company entrants that
take them away. When you train a MT, you need to recover the training
costs and earn, when a new MT compay wants to snatch
away, they can afford to pay better salaries because
they have not incurred training costs. Such ppl, when they are bound, do not keep exploring
opportunities. Many people from Health Scribe and
Heartland did that, they took free training and
changed ships? What security does the early entrant
have. I am not convinced by your opinion that training
should be considered as cost. Probably this is the
reason why new MT companies are charging for training
and then they are letting them off since they dont get
MT work. When such MT 's are blowing horn, they
deserved it, 'coz the senior MTs did not have the
ethics. Even today in US, contracts are existing. I think it
is more because of the ethics in our country that is
forcing the companies to get contracts. I know lot of
companies that are not entertaining the news MTs who
have just passed out of training. If MTs can't maintain ethical standards then let the
market conditions decide. Thats what is happening now,
Lot of students are paying huge amount of fees and are
then swindled by the management, who invited this
action: The students themselves by leaving the company
after getting trained. If many students are being swindled then many MT
companies have closed down due to such attitudes of
students. So, I think contract issue should be enforced and the
choice remains with the company. MT companies cannot
do CHARITY, they are in business too. Ameet Comment?
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Subject: Re: MTID Dear Amit, Please allow me to introduce E-MedTrans, Inc. an organization
dedicated to medical transcription services. E-MedTrans, Inc. is located in Vallejo, California and has a
channel partnership with Betasoftech of Mumbai. In fact, Kishore
Degwekar, Chairman of Betasoftech introduced your organization to
us. I enjoyed reading your Digest and am concerned about the name MT
companies are getting. Sounds like couple of bad eggs in the
basket. I do not know the state of affairs of MT training, MT
company management, and technical institute's promises. Nothing
like hands on training especially if you are catering to US
market. The names and accent handicaps are to be handled. Regards, Ramesh Shamarao Comment?
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Subject: Reply to Dr. Ribotsky post Dear Dr. Ribotsky, I read your post about outsourcing to India and its
benefits etc. Very interesting indeed. I am glad atleast one doctor
is good enough to speak good about the medical
transcription in India. Yes, there have been faulty
administrations etc in the past few years but as the
years have passed by, as in any business, the teething
problems or the baby steps days are over and India is
now looking forward to a professional way of dealing
with their overseas clients. I hope your article will be an eye-opener for many
people who are apprehensive about giving work to
India. I lived in the United States in the 70s and 80s and
still visit quite often as my daughter is studying
there. I do see that Indians are striving hard with the
Indian work force to deliver to the American
Standards. Best regards,
Meera Comment?
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Subject : False Promises made by WINTEL Institute of Medical
Transcription, Sarita Vihar, New Delhi, India Dear Dr. Chatterjee, We are undergoing training at the WINTEL Institute of MT, in
Sarita Vihar. Sir, we were given false information's that the
Institute has affiliations with AO Tran Solutions Co. America.
Also they haven't conducted regular classes to all the three
batches, which have passed out with no job. They have promised
us 100% placements with clear advertisements. Today
they have done nothing. They have opened franchises at nearby
places so that they could get it as a business, which earns them
good money. We have paid them 25000/- with no results. They knew
that they are unable to provide a proper job for anyone. So they
have sent few students to these centers as faculties. We have
spoiled our future; along this many other students may spoil
their future. Please suggest us what to do. Yours sincerely
C G Anbarasan
(For Students Of WIMT) Comment?
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Subject: About greivances of the MT's Dear Amit and MTIDers! After reading about the frustations that our felow
Indians have going through, I myself as a MT trainee
am quite worried of the future, as I and more than
50 of us paid Rs 15000. each and have also been
assured of getting a job a.s.a.p. What about all these people who are paying such a lot
of money though they cannot afford wasting all this
amount just to learn something that has no future?
I am worried about it and just tell me wether it
really has no future? Or are all MT's are supposed
to be EMPTY's? Do reply. Manasi Adivarekar Comment?
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Subject: RE: Reply to Lt. Col (Dr) Rajen mail in MT Digest #061 Dear Dr. Rajen, I, Dr. Rafi Ansari very much agree with you and would
like to continue our communication in this regard. Yours truly, Dr. Rafi
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