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Wednesday, 17 January 2001

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MT India Digest
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"Effective MT Forum"
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Jan 18, 2001     Digest #059
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 -=AAMT Exams in India=-

   ~S.M.Nathan
"Can AAMT do something on this?"

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-=MT training=-

   ~Ann C. Barton
"The greatest problem I found in my students when I was in India
was their lack of skills in the English language."

   ~Sudipta Sarangi
"We had taken training in this concern , but were not given proper
training and also were not assured of job."

   ~Alok Jha
"people who are making money are not the MT-aspirants but the
businessmen who are making them cough up the hard-earned money as a
cost for their aspirations"

-=MT in India=-

   ~Manoj Senapati
"came to know that almost 60% of the work has been diverted out to
the neighbouring countries"

   ~Rukmani Raghavan
"MT companies will promise you but will rarely keep their word"

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-=MT TImes=-

   ~Bhavana Reddy

   ~Prasenjit Ganguly

-=Toll-free dictation servers=-

   ~Prajesh Patel

-=MT Course=-

   ~Ajay Kumar

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From: Meganathan < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: AAMT Exams in India

Dear Dr.Amit Chatterjee,

You are correct when you say that there are people in MT outside
HealthScribe  in India and that they also would be
keen to go through the exams.

Can AAMT do something on this? Please try and mobilise supportive
opinion for this.

S.M.Nathan
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From: Ann C. Barton < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: MT training

Dear MTIDers,

Regarding training, as threaded below, there is a university in
Hyderabad, Osmania University, which has had a medical
transcription program, which was good, although not necessarily
"world class". I had the experience of training some graduates of
that university program last summer and they were very consistent
in quality of work and motivated. The Model Curriculum for Medical
Transcription published by AAMT is an excellent place for a
training program to start, but in order to have a world class
program, I feel you need the input of a world class medical
transcription trainer or at least a world class medical
transcriptionist. Nothing beats having a vocational trainer who has
experience in the field--and I don't feel that training by a doctor
(of medicine) necessarilty makes up for that. The greatest problem
I found in my students when I was in India was their lack of skills
in the English language. If a training program has a good
supplementary course in English and idioms that is a big plus.
Also, I teach medical transcription at a community college in the
U.S., a program which I have been working to upgrade for 10 years.
I think it is a very good program, and I think it is
erroneous to say there are not good MT training programs in the
U.S. The problem is so many have jumped on the bandwagon that there
are good and also very bad training programs here as in other
places.

Also, I feel that medical knowledge is important as well as live
files, especially having a background of general medical knowledge.
The more you know about medicine, especially as practiced in the
U.S. the better off you are. Years ago, when I was a "newbie" in
medical transcription I began reading medical journals and even got
a job in the medical library of the clinic where I worked in the
health center of a California State University. I found that the
more I read and understood about medicine the easier my job was,
and also the more interesting it became.

Best wishes.

Tina Barton, CMT
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From: Sudipta Sarangi < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: A Case Of Cheating...

Dear Sir,

There is a unit known as Aztek Systems Private Limited, situated at
132 -A, SECTOR-A, ZONE- A, Mancheswar Industrial Estate,
Bhubaneswar, Orissa, India.Telephone no.
0091-674-5581301/581433/585066 and email: This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it ,
which imparts training in Medical Transcription.

It has entered into collaboration with a party in  Hyderabad. We
had taken training in this concern , but were not given proper
training and also were not assured of job after our training nor
paid stipend. Our security deposit was also not refunded to us and
we were also abused.

The question that arises is how can a franchiser in the United
States enter into an agreement for services when a case of cheating
has been filed in the courts and the promoters have been branded as
cheats in various newspapers in India and a probe is going on. It
is also well established that they cheat everyone. It is for your
awareness and to resist and see that you be careful.

The unit is also opening an office in New Jersey in the United
States. In case any information is required one may please feel
free to mail me and I will update you. I am sorry that such type of
institutions do exist and various MT training institutions in India
offer them training facilities.

Yours,
Sudipta Sarangi
Bhubaneswar, India
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From: Alok Jha < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: Training woes!!

Hello Everybody:

Najmul's case is an eye-opener. I have been associated with one of
the major players in the field of medical transcription and am now
working as a production manager in a medical transcription company.
Having been in this industry for more than 3 years now, I have seen
the fate of different aspirants joining the course in order to
become a qualified MT in a brief  span of just 6 months. Many of
the shrewd businessmen have tapped this opportunity and are minting
money. This is like the Gold Rush they had back in America.

But, we forget the fact that during the Gold Rush the people who
made money were the ones who sold the spade. Similarly, during this
MT rush, the people who are making money are not the MT-aspirants
but the businessmen who are making them cough up the hard-earned
money as a cost for their aspirations. I have never and would never
recommend anybody to get any sort of medical transcription training
from any institute. Most of these MT institutes are always
ill-equipped, running just those pirated SUM tapes and the
Photostats of the text-books written by Americans. Nobody heeds the
fact that a person who is not well-acquainted with the basic level
of English, the American version of it, and basic grammar cannot be
trained into medical transcription.

Through this column, I would request all those who wish to join the
medical transcription industry to go for the in-house training
facility of the already established running production companies,
the companies with good credentials in the market. This way at
least they won't be cheated. At the same time, if anyone associated
with MT training is reading these lines, can I please request you
to try your best the impart the real MT training and not to deceive
the boy/girl who comes to you with a lot of hopes and really
hard-earned money?

Alok Jha
Production Manager
Truworth Infotech Private Ltd.
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From: Manoj Senapati < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: MT in India

Dear Amit & friends in the MT field,

I recently came to know that almost 60% of the work
has been diverted out to the neighbouring countries
i.e. Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

I just want to know that even though having a good
resources in India as compared to them, why has the
work been diverted?

As far as I have known the market till now, I have
understood that most of the companies are facing
getting live work, this has been mainly because of the
consultant's who take huge amounts from different
companies and just promising them of the required
number of lines, and nothing coming out of it.

If people like us who have entered this field taking
this as a carrier, where are we going to land, I just
am not able to understand.

Even after having a good experience of around 3 years
I am facing problems, because you just simply cant'
say that what is going to happen tomorrow.

I just require some detailed information about the
work coming in india and what is actually going to
happen in the coming few months.

With regards

Manoj
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Subject : Reg a transcriptionist's job

Anil Potdar wrote( MTID#58):
>Pl. advise me per return whether it is advisable for a person
>like me who has completed my post-graduation.  Whether there are
>going to be good propspects in this.

You have not given any details about where you wish to be employed.
Anyway here are some facts :

There are any number of companies in India but I regret to tell you
that  almost all of them are totally unreliable - I'll tell you
why.

Most of these MT companies wherever situated, barring exceptions,
will promise you the following but will rarely keep their word:

1) An 8AM - 4PM working day, 6 day week
Reality : You will end up working from 7.30 to 6PM on most days -
sometimes even on Sundays.

2) A salary of 3,500-5000( B'lore or H'bad may offer you 6000 ).

Reality: You will not be paid your salary properly. Either they
will claim that your work is not up to the mark or since they are
not getting work from their clients they  are not able to make
profits and hence they are unable to pay. In the worst cases they
close down the company

3) A signed contract ensuring that you work at least for a year
with either your degree certificate or a sum of Rs.25000-30000/- as
a deposit with them, to be forfeited by you if you leave within
that period.

4) Any other condition/ clause that is beneficial to the company
but not to the MT.

5) Very often none of the above is given in writing so you have no
recourse to any litigation when they do not fulfill their
obligations .

Please do not think that I am trying to frighten you. I am merely
warning you so that you are aware of what you are up against when
you go in search of a job. Every word of what I have written is
based on my own experience and that of many others who seek my
help. I am now on my own and would like to help people who write to
me for any kind of advice on MT.

As for going abroad let me warn you that American MT professionals
have a very poor opinion of us( barring exceptions) and they are
already agitated that work from their country is going out to
India, so I am not sure that they are going to be happy about
taking an Indian unless of course they test you and they find you
very good.

Please think carefully and find everything you can about a company
before you seek employment in it. It is good to ask a friend or a
neighbor who happens to really know that a company is good.

Regards,
Rukmani Raghavan
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From: Bhavana Reddy < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: 'Look who's in town' - Pamela Straatsma

Dear Sir,

In the current edition of MT India, there was a note, the title was
'Look who's in town'. There has been an error in that article.

Pamela Straatsma, was with Insignia initially, when she came to
India. Now she is a CBay employee, and is the Regional Coordiantor
for Quality  Chennai Zone ), CBay India. She has been in this
position for the last four months.

Kindly take note of the above, and correct the same.

Thanking You,

Sincerely,

Bhavana Reddy
CBay Systems India Pvt. Ltd.
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From: Prasenjit Ganguly < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: Healthscribe / NEXT seminars at Calcutta

Dear Sir,

Apropos the news item which has appeared in MT India on the above
subject recently. As the manpower related details quoted  are
incorrect I thought it prudent to put everything into perspective.

The current employee strength is 948. Total no. of
transcriptionists separating from us in FY 2000 was 25.

Thanks and Regards.

Prasenjit Ganguly
Vice President - Human Resources
HealthScribe India Ltd
Bangalore 560095
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From: Prajesh Patel < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: Need Help With Toll-free dictation & other ideas..

Dear Amit.

I am based in Chicago and currently in the MT Industry
since March of 1999.  I have been a subscriber to your
Digest since June of last year.  I need some help in
gaining some knowledge (information) and setting up
toll-free dictations for the doctors we are currently
providing medical transcriptions to here in the U.S.
If you know any companies and or personnell who are
currently providing these kinds of services and are
reputable, please forward me their information.  My
goal is to design a very userfriendly system for the
doctors and also to ease the headaches involved in the
transfer of the data between India and the U.S.  My
firm is currently using Digital recorders to capture
voice data and an FTP server to transfer it
simultaneously to and from India.  Are you aware of
any combination of system or process where this
process can be more efficient.  One of the ways I feel
this can be accomplished would be with the use of
toll-free dictation. So the Doctor does not have to
worry about dictating on a dictaphone, instead he/she
can dictate from anywhere at anytime.  Any help will
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Prajesh Patel
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From: ajay mattu < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Subject: Free MT training in Delhi

I wanted to ask the name of companies /institutions
which provide FREE MT training in Delhi and later on
absorb them in their in-house production units.
If by chance, there are no companies like these, then
which are the top ones in this field in Delhi which
may charge money but provide quality training and
later on in-house absorption.

Regards,
Ajay Kumar
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